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Combat Story (Ep 36): Mark Wales | Australian SAS | Troop Commander | Author | Kill Kapture

Kill KaptureAugust 7, 2021
Combat Story (Ep 36): Mark Wales | Australian SAS | Troop Commander | Author | Kill Kapture
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Today we hear the Combat Story of Mark Wales, a former Australian SAS (Special Air Service) officer who spent 16 years in the Australian Military, including six years in the elite SAS. He led special operators as a Troop Commander and completed 10 deployments to Afghanistan, Iraq, East Timor, Lebanon, and the Solomon Islands.

After separating from the military, Mark battled depression and stress disorders but found a way to power through and turn his life around. Mark would go on to earn an MBA from the prestigious Wharton School of Business and then worked at McKinsey & Company.

He has since written the book Survivor: Life in the SAS, was on Australian Survivor (where he met his wife) and competed in the Bear Grylls’ World’s Toughest Race: Eco Challenge Fiji 2019, which I highly recommend watching on Amazon with your family. During this episode, we compare the experience on Survivor and Eco Challenge to SAS Selection.

And since all this isn’t enough, Mark also founded Kill Kapture, a tough-luxury ecommerce brand and is now a sought after keynote and motivational speaker.

I hope you enjoy Mark’s honest, self deprecating, and relatable Combat Story as much as I did.

Website - MarkWales.com.au https://markwales.com.au/ Book - Survivor: https://www.amazon.com/Survivor-Life-SAS-Mark-Wales-ebook/dp/B08WHWJ2LK LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wales-69a90736/ Instagram: @mark.a.wales Kill Kapture: Website https://www.killkapture.com/pages/our-story | Instagram @kill_kapture

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Show Notes

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Chapters

  • 0:00Intro
  • 0:46Mark Wales bio
  • 1:42Interview begins
  • 2:32Combat Story (in a way): Going to a brothel at 14 years old
  • 4:37Growing up in Western Australia
  • 8:19What is the pipeline for an officer?
  • 16:42The view of 9/11 from an Aussie's perspective
  • 18:08Training on how to throw a grenade
  • 21:13The mission in East Timor
  • 24:35Combat Story #1: Mark’s first patrol in East Timor
  • 27:27Being deployed to Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands
  • 30:20The road to SAS and Selection
  • 31:24“Every day that I survived, I was like, ‘Wow. I survived another day.’ ”
  • 32:21SAS Officer Module
  • 35:04Difficult moments during Selection
  • 36:53Mark’s self-described weaknesses
  • 39:39“It’s about 30% Physical, 70% Mental, and then your personal characteristics and values you bring.”
  • 42:45First time being deployed to the Middle East
  • 45:45For a team of six SAS guys, how do they feel about doing executive protection?
  • 47:04Two more rotations to Afghanistan
  • 49:25Combat Story #2: Tracking an HVT in East Timor
  • 51:40Combat Story #3: SAS Troop Command in Afghanistan
  • 53:41“One of the things we do better than anyone is going to enemy territory and finding out where they are while completely undetected.”
  • 56:03“This is super dangerous. We could feel it.”
  • 59:34Royal Gurkha Regiment
  • 1:02:18“Don’t feel like that was your fault. That stuff can happen no matter how well you plan things.”
  • 1:02:36The language of the "unconscious body."
  • 1:03:43“One of my greatest strengths is the ability to look at people and know what they are thinking based on the tiny things they’re doing.”
  • 1:05:00Combat Story #4: Dangerous experiences in Helmund Province
  • 1:09:35What was that like for you coming out of the military?
  • 1:10:16“I knew I was so exhausted, and that really damaged me.”
  • 1:11:34Applying to business schools in secret
  • 1:13:04“[The military's] a hard place. I wouldn’t call it the ‘friendliest’ workplace in the world.”
  • 1:13:44How hard was it for you, mentally, to make the break?
  • 1:14:50Reinventing the new path
  • 1:16:02Combat (Reality Version) Story #5: Getting on Australian Survivor
  • 1:16:40Survivor vs SAS Selection?
  • 1:18:13What was it like getting kicked off Survivor for someone who never fails?
  • 1:19:20Combat (Reality Version) Story #6: Completing World's Toughest Race Fiji 2019 Eco-Challenge
  • 1:20:52“That happened to a lot of teams, and it was brutal.”
  • 1:22:00Eco-Challenge vs Selection
  • 1:23:40Kill Kapture
  • 1:24:24What did you carry into combat?
  • 1:26:17Would you do it all again?