“A Shadow Dance”: A Marine Officer’s Story of Fallujah, War, and Understanding the Enemy
About This Episode
In this episode of Combat Story, we sit down with Elliot Ackerman—former Marine infantry officer, CIA paramilitary operations officer, journalist, and bestselling author.
Elliot takes us inside some of the most intense moments of modern warfare, from the brutal urban combat of Fallujah in 2004 to special operations deployments in Afghanistan and later transitioning into the CIA. He walks us through a harrowing platoon-level fight where his unit was surrounded, badly wounded, and forced to blow their way out under fire—starting the day with 46 Marines and ending with just 21 combat effectives.
But this conversation goes deeper than tactics and timelines.
Elliot reflects on leadership under pressure, the mental toll of combat, and how war shapes identity long after the fighting ends. He also shares a remarkable story of sitting down years later with a former al-Qaeda in Iraq fighter—two men who once hunted each other, now trying to understand the same war from opposite sides.
This is a powerful discussion about brotherhood, memory, storytelling, and why veterans become the custodians of history when wars end.
If you’re interested in Marine infantry combat, Fallujah 2004, special operations, the CIA, or the deeper human meaning of war—this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
Elliot's Latest Projects:
Huge congrats to Elliot Ackerman on his latest novel, Sheepdogs!
A sharp, timely story that digs into power, loyalty, and the moral gray zones of modern conflict—and it’s already being developed for TV at Apple by Playtone and Tom Hanks.
Grab a copy here https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/775346/sheepdogs-by-elliot-ackerman/
Also, Big news from Elliot Ackerman and James Stavridis
Their new novel 2084 drops this May—the final chapter in the 20xx series that began with 2034 (now being adapted into a film by Sony).
A sharp, unsettling look at future geopolitics and a war set just around the corner. We’ll be having them on in the future to talk about the book—and the entire 20xx project.
Check it out here https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696978/2084-by-elliot-ackerman-and-admiral-james-stavridis/
Elliot's Socials: Instagram: elliot.ackerman X: @elliotackerman
