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Origin CIA & Military Armed Drone Program | Never Mind We’ll Do It Ourselves Author | Alec Bierbauer

Alec BierbauerJuly 8, 2023
Origin CIA & Military Armed Drone Program | Never Mind We’ll Do It Ourselves Author | Alec Bierbauer
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Today we hear a Combat Story detailing the almost start-up like creation and expansion of the CIA and military’s drone program that would go on to help find, fix, and finish high value targets across the globe with Army veteran and CIA officer, Alec Bierbauer.

Alec was an Army intelligence soldier and Warrant Officer before being hand picked to join DIA and then being hand picked again, this time by CIA legend Cofer Black, to join the CIA. Prior to 9/11, Alec was detailed from DIA to CIA’s virtual station, coincidentally named Alec Station, tracking Al-Qaida and Bin Laden. He would later have the opportunity to fire some of the first shots of the war against AQ through the predator program.

He went on to be a CIA Chief of Base in the early years of the Global War on Terror to track down targets in Afghanistan and continued serving in austere environments, including several stints more recently in an expeditionary capacity in locations he can’t name while in more senior roles at the Agency.

Alec and Mark Cooter wrote the book “Never Mind, We'll Do It Ourselves: The Inside Story of How a Team of Renegades Broke Rules, Shattered Barriers, and Launched a Drone Warfare Revolution” which details never before seen experiences of how the drone program was stood up and leveraged post-9/11.

This interview was a blast and I hope you enjoy this detailed look at such a critical program to national security during such a pivotal time, as much as I did.

Show Notes:

Featured Guest

Alec Bierbauer

Chapters

  • 00:00Intro
  • 00:49Guest Introduction (Alec Bierbauer)
  • 02:24Interview begins
  • 04:05Getting connected
  • 04:56Living overseas
  • 07:00Giving a cover story
  • 09:15Being in Moscow in the late 70's
  • 11:20Moving around, growing up, and grades
  • 12:53Path to the Army
  • 15:48Impression of America growing up overseas
  • 17:06Deciding what role to fill in the Army
  • 20:03Joining the Seapower and Projection Forces Commitee
  • 23:12Transition to the D.I.A.
  • 27:47Drones during the late 90's
  • 32:13Working with other Agencies
  • 38:41Identifying terrorist threats
  • 45:41Intelligence Operations in Afghanistan
  • 57:05Alternate options to Drones to find Bin Laden
  • 59:489/11 and Drone deployment
  • 01:11:51Time in Afghanistan
  • 01:23:13Leading a base at the front end of the war
  • 01:31:13Mike Span's passing
  • 01:35:40Most couragous acts
  • 01:45:50Satisfaction of the Drone Program
  • 01:49:45Unmaned aircrafts Vs. Manned aircrafts
  • 01:51:11Keep going back to the fight
  • 01:53:10Retirement
  • 01:55:47Starting BlackRock Strategy
  • 01:57:17Sentimental items
  • 01:58:53Do it all again
  • 01:59:43Closing thoughts
  • 02:01:24Listener comments and shout outs